So, a bigger battle this time, Dwarfs (1,500 points) vs a combined army of Orcs (750 points) and Undead (750 points). I must say I much prefer bigger armies, more scope for variety of units. I felt very restricted trying to come up with the small 50 point armies. I had to make far more compromises than I would have liked.
We tried to try out some experimental rules*, succeeded with some of them, forgot to use others...oh well. We did use the following:
- March column
- Artillery variables rules
- Orc Animosity
- Undead [Racial] Only remembered part of these new rules
* These experimental rules can be found at the end of this AAR.
The Battlefield
The troops as deployed with deployment mishaps indicated.
On the northern half of the battlefield, the Orc battle line is ready to charge the Dwarven forces |
On the southern half it looks like the Undead army has homefield advantage! |
The Undead army |
The Orc army |
The depleted Dwarf right flank await their fate at the hands of the Undead horde! |
The Dwarf left flank stands ready for the Orcs |
The Dwarf center |
TURN ONE
The Southern battle
The Dwarven rangers race towards the forest as do the Ghouls! The main thrust of the undead army is towards the center of the Dwarven line, where the Iron Breakers patiently wait. The rogue makes use of the Gyrocopter to get enter the graveyard, but for now he forgoes the pleasure of raiding the tombs.
The Undead horde slowly advances towards the Dwarven army |
While in the north
A general advance is launched by the Orcs. The archers on the northern end of the line run out of room and are slowed down by the ruins. The elite Black Orcs and Big Uns form up in march column eager to engage the enemy before all the glory is stolen by the boring gits.
The dwarf player belatedly decided that one of their mages should actually be more involved on their left flank and had the mage racing across the battlefield. This prevented the mage from casting any spells for the first 2 turns.
The Orc mage used the blink spell to accelerate the advance of the Orcs.
The Boar Boyz & Boar Chariot race pell mell towards the the Dwarfs |
TURN TWO
THE SITUATION AT THE START OF TURN 2 |
The battle in the south
Artillery fire targets the Orc archers & the approaching Grave Guard |
Ghouls & rangers collide in the woods |
The sneaky gyroscope flanks the knights ready to release a steam blast! |
Turn two - melee round
In the north, a vicious battle commences!! |
The fire throwers did not last too long! First blood goes to the Orcs. |
The rangers start to make cord wood out of the ghouls. |
TURN THREE
THE SITUATION AT THE START OF TURN 3 |
The south
The Dwarf general decides to not wait any longer, and advances the Iron Guard! |
The Gyrocopter attacks the rear of the knights. |
Bugman's berserk brew stimulates his Dwarfs to attack the knights! Meanwhile the Fell Bats assault the clan warriors and the unengaged Greybeards wheel to flank the Fell bats. |
The North
The chariot is quickly destroyed by crossbow and gun fire but as it is expendable does not impact that much on the Orcs. With the arrival of the two march columns, the main focus of the Orcs is to maneuver their troops to bring them into the battle.
Orc arrer boys launch their missiles at the crossbow armed Dwarfs |
Turn three - melee round
It is a tight struggle between the Boar Boyz and the Dwarf spear sees both units approaching their breaking point. Spearmen prove their worth while the Boar Boyz, no longer enjoying warbeasts or charge bonuses, have a tough time inflicting wound on the Dwarf spear.The use of a curse spell by the Dwarf mage did not help the Orcs struggle!
Devastating melees swirl in the south & the Fell Bats fall! |
In a daring move the rogue challenges the Undead Magelord! |
The Ghouls are defeated taking their necromancer with them.
TURN FOUR
THE SITUATION AT THE START OF TURN 4 |
In the south, the Dwarf get lucky, and are able to act before the advancing Undead horde can and therefore the Iron Breakers charge the Undead. The remaining undead are locked in combat for another melee phase, while the hapless Skeleton spear try to catch up to the battle. In the forest, the unopposed rangers wheel towards the Grave Guard
In the north
The Orc spear are in position to strike at the Hammerers and launch an attack! The archery duel continues but the two to one advantage sees the Orc arrer boyz taking to much damage.
Turn four - melee round
In the south
TURN FIVE
The situation at the start of turn 5. Well in the excitement of battle pictures of the North are largely missing. In the south the rangers are ready to charge while the Dwarf warriors, Greybeards and drunkards find themselves with out any immediate enemies to fight. They oddly all turn to the right before remembering that there is still another skeleton unit approaching them.
In the north the Orcs wait until the last moment to finally disengage from the Dwarf spear. Having already been activated, the Dwarf spear cannot react so must watch their enemy escape from their grasp.
TURN SIX
THE SITUATION AT THE START OF TURN 6 |
While the Boar Boyz were able to break away, they were not able to move very far. They wound up crashing into the Black Orcs and grinding to a stop. The Dwarf luck worked again as they acted before the Orcs and promptly charged into the rear of the mounted Orcs. This turn saw the end of the Orc Arrer boyz (finally) and the crossbow and thunderers shifted their position to bring new elements of the Orc army into range of their missile weapons.
In the south
The Iron Breakers continue to battle the skeleton pole axe troops. The rangers charge home, flanking the Grave Guard. One canon was out of service while the other canon had limited targets, but still took a shot at the Grave Guard prior to the ranger's attack.
The other Dwarf units wound up turning to face the, still slowly approaching, skeleton spear. While the rogue finally returns to the graveyard searching for treasure!
Scouting around he found a Wicked Blade of Piercing.
Turn six - melee round
Well no surprises, the Orc Boar Boyz were charged in the rear and had a curse cast on them giving them a -3 for the melee. It was not a pretty site. The Orc spear also suffered defeat and they too were removed.
That was it for the battle, with the destruction of the Orc spear the battle was over. Both allied War/Mage Lords became casualties, as did one of the Undead necromancers.
This was only our second game and there was still some learning going on. I know we made some mistakes but none of them really impacted on the outcome. Both sides had some non rules related challenges. For the Orcs they found themselves hampered by scenery, and were too crowded on the far right. The archer unit there never got into battle. For the Undead, the use of mages could have gone better. One had the summon spell but they started using it too late in the battle to make much of a difference. The Dwarf player flubbed how to use the skirmishers seeing them destroyed because he was unable to react to the enemy.
In the end it was a lopsided victory, with the Dwarf army losing only one unit yet it was not a cake walk. Any of the melees could have gone differently and the Dwarfs could have been in trouble. Had the elite Orc units been able to engage we would have seen very different results. Throughout the battle the Orc player was able to rally back resolve whereas the Dwarf player was hopelessly inept in his rally rolls.
As promised these are some of the rules we were testing out.
I have added comments after each new rule. Please not these new rules are in-house rules and not necessarily something that I feel the game really needs. As written the game is quite excellent and well balanced.
These new rules are an experiment, rightly or wrongly to emulate some of the weirdness of the old GW rules. They are basically a mental exercise brought to the table.
Animosity Orc/Goblin [Impetuous actions]
1
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That gits got a Gouge eye jersey on get im! |
Wheel (or turn, whichever is most appropriate) to face the nearest friendly unit. Move to attack them if possible. Once engaged in melee units will remain so, fighting each melee phase until they or their opponent have scattered or disengaged. |
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2-3
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Bickering & arguing about who killed who |
Internal squabble, each company in unit loses 1 resolve. |
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4
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Everyone is a bunch of idiots, we should... |
1-2 3-4
5-6 |
Sod these gits! Turn 180 (-2BW) & move any remaining move Wheel 1D3 BW (1-3 Left, 4-6 Right). then move forward any remaining move. Not be too hasty...The unit holds its current position without moving. Units with heavy or powerful missile weapons will reload if they need to do so. |
5
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We’ll show everyone what to do, there's the enemy get em! |
Become impulsive for a turn. The unit wheels the minimum distance required to face the nearest enemy unit (or turns 180° to the rear if this is required) & charges the remainder of its move directly to the enemy. |
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6+
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In your name! |
Treat the unit as though it is within command range. It may make a controlled action. |
Modifiers
+1 Formed or Elite or Reliable
-1 Unreliable, target of confusion spell
No Orc units suffered any animosity so this rule remains untested.
Artillery shots
Artillery rolls a D6 to see the effect of the shot.
1 |
Something different happens |
2+ |
Resolve shot as normal |
Something different charts
Indirect artillery
1 |
Snap/boom |
Weapons is out of service for D3 turns. Destroyed if this result rolled again. |
2 |
Miss short/long |
1-3 short 4-6 overshot. Roll D3 (-1 reliable, +1 unreliable crew) for distance If a hit occurs treat as Partial hit |
3 |
Miss left/right |
1-3 left 4-6 right roll D3 (-1 reliable, +1 unreliable crew) for distance If a hit occurs treat as Partial hit |
4 |
Partial hit |
Resolve shot as normal but reduce total hits by 1 |
5-6 |
Forceful hit |
Resolve shot as normal. If at least one hit is scored add 1 hit to total |
Direct artillery
1 |
Snap/boom |
Weapons is out of service for D3 turns. Destroyed if this result rolled again. |
2-3 |
Miss short/long |
1-3 short 4-6 overshot. Roll D3 (-1 reliable, +1 unreliable crew) for distance If a hit occurs treat as Partial hit |
4 |
Partial hit |
Resolve shot as normal but reduce total hits by 1 |
5-6 |
Forceful hit |
Resolve shot as normal. If at least one hit is scored add 1 hit to total |
The artillery rules worked out fine. The intent was to add some of the randomness from WH but without delaying the game too much. The Dwarf player had partial hits, and one snap/boom result (that put one gun out for three turns) It did require extra die rolls but not much in the way of extra measuring. The possibility of a short shot did cause the Dwarf player some worry as one of their units could well of been hit had the shot fallen short.
March column
Units that are at least 5BW away from the enemy & in column formation at the start of their activation may use march column
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May add 1BW to movement.
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May not move into contact with enemy.
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If enemy contacts them, marching companies suffer -1 melee in addition to any other modifiers.
This worked out fine. The Orc player was happy to gain the extra move and the restrictions built into the rule kept it from becoming a problem rule.
UNDEAD [-1 melee]
Do not suffer RES loss when friendly units scatter. Only a Mage-lord may rally. Resolve may be restored by bless spell. If IMPETUOUS, roll on the UNDEAD IMPETUOUS CHART.
Any enemy charged/charging must roll under starting RES or must roll 6s in combat to hit. Also companies that could normally offer support cannot if the test is failed. Fear and Mindless units are immune
Undead units [Impetuous actions]
1 |
Absence of control weakens unit |
Lose 1 Resolve per company. The unit holds its current position without moving. Units with heavy or powerful missile weapons will reload if they need to do so. |
2-5 |
Let’s not be too hasty... |
The unit holds its current position without moving. Units with heavy or powerful missile weapons will reload if they need to do so. |
6 |
Grrrrr Arrrghh! |
Shamble towards nearest enemy, within 5 BWs, wheeling if required to face that target. May only shamble 1 BW (including the wheel) |
+1 Formed or elite
-1 Irregular or skirmish or Ephemeral
It was the fear part of this rule that we failed to remember to use. One skeleton unit did become impetuous, but only rolled the standard "Let's not be too hasty..." I based the FEAR on the terrifying rule and, originally, on malodorous. They do not rediate fear only impact those who contact (or try to contact) the unit.
As originally written the impact on a unit that failed a fear test was as follows:
A unit charged/charging a feared unit must roll under starting RES or suffer -1 MEL (-2 if mounted). Companies in support position cannot support if the unit fails the fear test. No effect on units with FEAR/MINDLESS.
Again since we failed to remember the rule I have no idea which is the better rule. I have also yet to determine a point value for this trait.
Final note, Undead trait is a combination of two traits into one racial trait, perhaps allowing the Undead unit to still have 3 other trait choices.
Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed the AAR and pictures, it looked like an interesting battle. A couple of questions. What were the table dimensions? In picture 27 it looks like the Grey Beads (who appear to have started the game as a formation of 2 companies) broke formation to attack the fell bats on the front and flank, is that another house rule to allow formations to separate to wrap around flanks?
ReplyDeleteThank you for looking in and commenting (I never seem to get too many comments)
DeleteThe gaming surface was 85" by 50" including the wooded short edge in the north.
No house rule here. The Greybeards started as a 2 company unit but lost a company in the mishap phase, so they became a unit of 1. In the picture they are formed up beside a unit of clan Dwarfs who also started a 2 company unit and who also lost a company during the mishap segment, so what you see there are two separate units that happen to be touching.
Thanks for the explanation about the Grey Beards, that explains it. I was guessing a 7' x 4' playing area so I was not far off. I find you need more than 6' x 4' for any game much over 1,000 points, otherwise there is little scope for maneuver and units either have little option other than to just charge into each other or get caught up in traffic jams. I noticed in some of your test cards you gave dwarfs the fast trait did you use that in this game? Seems a bit uncharacteristic for Dwarfs, was that to represent the March ability in WFB?. Also did you try the new rule for mindless as part of your "undead" trait rule that no longer penalizes mindless 1bw from their moment?
ReplyDeleteDeployment can also dictate how much one can move around. Deploy in depth rather than a line, let lead elements engage while faster or even slower units move from the rear to flank. Also not certain why everybody seems to line up right across the board to match up against each other instead of strengthening a flank or the center to punch through (that's any game not just FB and I do it too)
DeleteThis game did see the allies leave the center area open which could have left the biggest best Dwarf unit with nothing much to do. The Iron Breakers move 2 are 4 companies and steer like a cow. Enemies need to take advantage of this weakness! In the end the Undead engaged them, might have been better off taking out the Dwarf right flank and then move north rolling up the army. So far the Orc player is the only one really thinking about tactics, I was mostly reacting, the Undead were mostly having fun moving stuff. Maybe both allies could have postured/feinted to confuse the Dwarf general and make him shift the Iron Breakers to draw them out of position.
Yes they had fast in this game, they had it to represent young warriors/lighter equipped irregulars. Bugman's guys were also fast, drunk and berserk.
In the future I may invoke a reverse racial rule, Dwarfs cannot select fast.
Yes 'Undead' stat incorporated the new version of mindless.
There is much wisdom in what you say about deployment, but to play devils advocate I will note you did use a larger 85" table width rather than the standard 72" to help avoid the problems, that extra 13" helps. I think one reason players tend to deploy in one long line rather than in depth in FB and many other games is that these games rarely last more than 6 turns and if your units are not in the front line they may not get into action in time to have much of an impact on the game. This is particularly true where units are slow (undead foot were 1BW in most of the games I have played to date), it takes a turn to change formation and most units can't interpenetrate / move through other units.
ReplyDeleteOn a side note Bugman's rangers are a challenging unit to create stats for, going by the GW mythos and what the figures I have molded on them they could have: doughty (racial), heavy melee weapon, heavy missile weapon, shooting, foresters, thrown weapons, fast and stimulants. I will likely go with irregular formation: doughty, shooting, heavy melee weapons and stimulants, leaving out foresters as I will attach Captain Joseph Bugman to the unit with the relic Navigator's Map of Wayfinding so they can move through terrain without penalty. Captain Bugman could also be given the scouts strategy.